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Rating - not convenient hence useless?

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Previous post - Next post | Parent - Children.1 | Posted on 2005/8/20 6:18
bpbp  ÆóÅùʼ   Posts: 8
Hello there,
We are using myAlbum on our site for half a year, and we have not found better xoops image module.
Thanks for it!

However there is one functionality that bother us a lot.
Why after rating a picture is opened main album page?
Why not to continue in viewing in Category or The next photo in a Category?

We see a tipcal usecase of album module in a following way:
User(s) post a photoalbum - on our site usualy a series of documentary photos from an "event".
Other user(s) or anonymous are viewing posted stuff and here it comes ! wow this is nice, I would like to give it a rating!
But when they do so they cannot continue in going through. They are send after rating to a main photoalbum page.
This means, several clicks are necessary before they are back again on a picture(s) where they were before rating.

Resulting user behaviour - no rating at all!

I personaly consider this to be a big issue for the whole rating system of myAlbum module.
Or do you know a myAlbum module site where the rating is really used?

The minimal solution to this is for me:
Redirect me(after rating) back to nextphoto(when view a single photos) or category(when viewing a category)

The best rating practice I can imagine is to have in both views(category, singlephoto) a rating combobox - where user can just select and when he goes to a picture or on next page rating is silently counted and added. Something that could be called In Place Rating System.
The extra rating page which is now presented seems to me useless - once viewed and readed there is no need for user to tell him the rating rules again and again...

"advantages of this In Place Rating System":
- fast and convenient rating, which means
- users are interested in rating the pictures, which means
- rating is going to be used, which means
- rating has some importance, which means
- rating is a real feature

"disadvantages":
- dont see actually any

I would like to do In Place Rating System myself as a hack and post it here, but my time is now devoted for other projects ... and I find rating as a real issue - Our users ask it as the 3rd questions(after how to post an article and how to add a picture to it) = why it sends me to main page?

Hence, anybody interested?

regards Breta, CZ, http://www.luzanky.cz/brnkadla
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Previous post - Next post | Parent - Children.1 | Posted on 2005/8/20 20:27
GIJOE  ÀèǤ·³Áâ   Posts: 4110
Though I don't read whole of what you wrote, you can try myAlbum-P 2.9 alpha (2.85).

ratephoto.php in 2.85 redirects you to the starting page.
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Previous post - Next post | Parent - Children.1 | Posted on 2005/8/23 4:05
bpbp  ÆóÅùʼ   Posts: 8
OK. I'l make it simple then:


Why after rating a picture is opened main album page?
Why not to continue in viewing Category?
Why not to continue in viewing Next photo?
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Previous post - Next post | Parent - Children.1 | Posted on 2005/8/24 5:33
GIJOE  ÀèǤ·³Áâ   Posts: 4110
OK.

I can see what you mean.
But I don't like target="_blank" for such purposes.

2.85 has a better interface I think.
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Previous post - Next post | Parent - Children.1 | Posted on 2005/8/24 18:01
bpbp  ÆóÅùʼ   Posts: 8
-----Apology-----
I'm sorry, but we still don't understand each other.
It seems to me that it is my mistake - I have been confusing, so sorry for that.

I'm trying to explain it simply, with no extra text and my opinions.

-----Explanation-----

I mean this ('+' means user action with page loaded):

User wants to go through new pictures in album
+ User opens a album module
+ then User selects/clicks a category
+ then User selects/clicks a subcategory
+ then User selects/clicks a photo in category
+ then User clicks on picture1, then on picture2, then on picture3 ...

And then he wants to give picture3 a vote

+ He clicks on rate photo link and is presented by a page generated from myalbum/ratephoto.php

+ he selects and send his vote

and then he is presented by myalbum/index.php

I think he should be send to picture4 instead so he can continue in viewing.(Because when user is send to main page, he is at least 3 clicks/page loads away from picture4. So he will not vote again - it costs him too much time)

I suggest to remember the photo (or category) ID and pass it as a parameter to ratephoto.php. Then send user back to the photo he just rated or to next photo

(there is no need for target=_blank, I don't like it too.)
-----Regards-----


best regards, bpbp
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Previous post - Next post | Parent - Children.1 | Posted on 2005/9/1 13:17
GIJOE  ÀèǤ·³Áâ   Posts: 4110
Have you ever tried to vote in 2.85/2.86 once ?

Quote:
+ He clicks on rate photo link and is presented by a page generated from myalbum/ratephoto.php
+ he selects and send his vote
and then he is presented by myalbum/index.php
and then he will return to photo3

if he votes a photo from viewcat.php
Quote:
+ User opens a album module
+ then User selects/clicks a category
+ then User selects/clicks a subcategory
+ And then he wants to give picture3 a vote
+ He clicks on rate photo link and is presented by a page generated from myalbum/ratephoto.php
+ he selects and send his vote
+ and then he will return to the subcategory

It works perfectly, doesn't it?

Implementing next-id is difficult because of sorting method, orders(asc,desc), categories, and deletion.
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Previous post - Next post | Parent - Children.1 | Posted on 2005/9/1 17:37
bpbp  ÆóÅùʼ   Posts: 8
havn't tried 2.85 yet - will ASAIHSBFT (As Soon As I'll Have Some Bl.... F.....g Time )

thanks for unswering so promptly

anyway - to give something back to comunity - on our site a translation of 2.84 to Czech can be downloaded.
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Previous post - Next post | Parent - Children.1 | Posted on 2005/9/1 19:28
bpbp  ÆóÅùʼ   Posts: 8
by the way:
could you please set up my-Album on your site in a following way?:

let there be some main category
- with only subcategories(no photo inside a category)
- and with photos only in some of these subcategories(i.e. some subcategories empty)

I got a worng count of items inside main category with 2.84

cheers, bpbp

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Previous post - Next post | Parent - No child | Posted on 2005/9/2 5:25
GIJOE  ÀèǤ·³Áâ   Posts: 4110
I'm sorry that I can't see what you mean again.

Is wrong count displayed ?

If so, please write it with detail.

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