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Subject 人海戦術なSPAMをどう対策するか
Summary このサイトは原則的にユーザ登録しないと投稿できないようにしてあるのですが、最近は手作業でユーザ登録した上で、一見SPAMとは思えないような投稿をしてくるようです。(例えば、「新しいバージョンは無いか」とか「この投稿はとても役立つ」といった内容の横に、こっそ...
Previous post - Next post | Parent - Children.1 .2 .3 | Posted on 2009/8/30 22:25
vaughan  上等兵   Posts: 37
i applaud your continued developments into this, & good luck in trying to reduce this further. though I feel you're fighting a losing battle in relation to human spammers as opposed to bots.

i don't think there's much anybody can do to prevent a human spammer except plenty of vigilance. i don't think disabling posts for 60 minutes will solve it unfortunately, though it's a sure inconvenience to them, it is also an inconvenience to those legitimate users who registered.

i guess thats 1 of the hardest things to weigh up in our fight against spam, spam protection vs user inconvenience, where do you draw the line? tough decisions.
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Previous post - Next post | Parent - No child | Posted on 2009/9/5 18:58 | Last modified
GIJOE  先任軍曹   Posts: 4110
hi vaughan.

Thank you for the advice

Quote:

i applaud your continued developments into this, & good luck in trying to reduce this further. though I feel you're fighting a losing battle in relation to human spammers as opposed to bots.

i don't think there's much anybody can do to prevent a human spammer except plenty of vigilance. i don't think disabling posts for 60 minutes will solve it unfortunately, though it's a sure inconvenience to them, it is also an inconvenience to those legitimate users who registered.

I know the new user will feel inconvenience.
But I guess:

*A visitor can wait my slow answer

She/he can wait 60 minutes for posting.
And the filter rejects just literals like URL
eg)
http://...
bbcodes [ url]
www.(domain))

She/he can post without such URLs within 60 minutes.
And their purpose can be achived without URLs.


* human SPAMMERS

She/he cannot wait 60 minutes.
And their purpose can not be achived without URLs.



Anyway, I have to test the filter in a practice site.

You can see this site's name:

PEAK XOOPS SUPPORT & EXPERIMENT


Quote:
i guess thats 1 of the hardest things to weigh up in our fight against spam, spam protection vs user inconvenience, where do you draw the line? tough decisions.
I know it too.
Running the filter in this site is an important experiment for all CMS Users.
Including ImpressCMS, of course

Even with the filter, a SPAM was posted by hand.
However, the filter has blocked three SPAMs -the same kind of- at least in this week.

I estimate I have to continue the experiment some months.
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Previous post - Next post | Parent - No child | Posted on 2009/9/5 19:22
vaughan  上等兵   Posts: 37
Quote:
She/he can post without such URLs within 60 minutes.
And their purpose can be achived without URLs.


* human SPAMMERS

She/he cannot wait 60 minutes.
And their purpose can not be achived without URLs.

agreed, a lot will not want to wait that long.

1 of the main types of spam we see now isn't where a human spammer posts links in posts & forums, but they actually fill their signature & extra info fields with URLS, & then try to make their posts look as though they are asking for help, or thanking someone for help. they are getting more devious that's for sure. i guess if we could prevent them doing that aswell it would be a good step forward.

lets hope your filter reduces these even more :) it's about time we developers fought back.
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Previous post - Next post | Parent - No child | Posted on 2009/10/25 4:13
vaughan  上等兵   Posts: 37
hows the spam filter going? any updates yet on how many it's blocked etc?
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